SPOT THE DIFFERENCE...and he's at it again

Admin Age : 57 Joined : 21 Feb 2007 Posts : 743

Hi Jennie...

Flimsey Lindsay... I cannot take credit for that... that is down to one of Lindsays victims - good name though 'eh!! Very Happy

DG: Ahhh... but if you were a moderator on any other 'open, honest and friendly' Linedancer message board you WOULD have to remove thread 'cos its 'negative'... bugger the fact that this guy is destroying genuine Choreographers credibilty and maybe saving any vested interest... after all this guy has been 'chosen' by many to recieve a CBA.

Karen Hunn posted this on the Linedancer Magazine Message Board in June 2004

“….I had a look on his website yesterday and found a dance called "Can't Stop Loving You", had a look, it was to the Lionel Ritchie track "Shout It To The World", said it was choreographed by Robert, so I first assumed he had written a dance to this track calling it the same name as the one we all know, then reading through the script found it was the same one that was filling the floors here…”.
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As DJ Tim Ruzgar has met Andy Skidmore he stated that Robert and Andy are most definitely not the same person – so a question of Dual Identity can be ruled out.

This info was not only posted on the Linedancer Magazine message board – but Betty Drummond was contacted at the time via email about this matter. Within days of it being posted - the whole thread including the initial expose of the dance ‘Blue Mercury’ was REMOVED.

Present day:
On Robert M Lindsay’s site is a dance called ‘Do This Do That’… but if you click onto it you will find, still on his website….Cant Stop Loving You.. and yes you have guessed it… it’s the Andy Skidmore dance. Only a very vain person would knowingly disguise a dance like this … Why.. when knowing the Linedancer Magazine Message Board has passed comment on the dance on his site not being his (before it was removed) – does his try to disguise it in this way… and more to the point… WHY!.. Does he actually believe the dance to be his… like he proclaimed BLUE MERCURY was his – when in fact and proven it was Caz Robertson’s.

Sorry.. but NOW I’m having some VERY serious doubts about ALL of the dances site he proclaims are ‘his’ on his web site.
… and that includes FIRECRACKER.

There are gonna be a lot of embarrassed and maybe embittered people, some with possibly eggs on their faces IF Firecracker (or Lindsay as the Choreographer) wins a Crystal Boot Award and its later found out he DIDN’T choreograph the dance. I sincerely hope this is NOT the case but OMG.. it doesn’t bear thinking about.

But honestly, this guy is seriously taking the proverbial out of ALL Linedancers and basically sticking two fingers up at the REAL choreographers of these dances.

Admin Age : 57 Joined : 21 Feb 2007 Posts : 743

Blimey... talk about Deja Vu.... Flimsey's site has 'gone off air' (again) so to speak. One cannot gain access - simply 'cos it aint there. No matter.. I suspect quite a number of people have already downloaded the script.

Admin Joined : 03 Dec 2006 Posts : 410

Are you causing trouble Mike Wink

Admin Age : 57 Joined : 21 Feb 2007 Posts : 743

'eh... nope!!... but it would appear that the 'choreographer' (?) nicknamed 'Flimsey' Lindsay is.

Some people were already aware - but have chosen not to say anything.. similar to what happened with last years The South Will Rise Again fiasco.
And I get no pleasure from this what so ever.

Admin Age : 57 Joined : 21 Feb 2007 Posts : 743

Hi ..

Just an update ... for those of you who wanted one last chance of seeing (or even downloading) Robert's replica masterpiece 'Cant Stop Loving You'.. your just a tad (few hours) toooooo late. The magician has waved his magic and before you could say 'whowrotethat' - it had gone - to be replaced by the correct dance.
For those who obtained a copy .... you lucky people you!!... for those who didn't ... ahhhhhhhh... better luck next time... Cool

. Just to confuse everyone who might say 'huh! we must have been seeing things'.. he has added that the site was last updated on 4th January 2008 at 1:45pm... which would make it BEFORE this thread came out. He's such a little jocolor

isn't he.

I dare u 2 go post this 'over there'!!

Lol! Just kidding! Please dont, would hate to see u get hurt!

Admin Joined : 03 Dec 2006 Posts : 410

I you do post if over there make sure you give us the link.

I may venture out of safe waters to see what response you get.

Admin Age : 57 Joined : 21 Feb 2007 Posts : 743

Now now Girls....

To put this 'over there' would not last 30 seconds... as its soooooo.. negative. Of course they are right.. it is negative.... a lot of people are happy being at 'home' with their slippers on 'controlling' what is said and even thought within linedancing (or so they think). They like to sweep things like this 'under the carpet'... but by doing so they are adding to the contempt which these 'cowboy' (no pun intented - like Hell!!) Choreographers have for their fellow Linedancers.
They are knowingly quite happy to heap praise on people like this, promote 'their' dances, 'cross their palms with silver', give them awards and generally make them believe that ripping off other Choreographers IS the best (and only) way into to be successful.

Admin Age : 57 Joined : 21 Feb 2007 Posts : 743

...and just to put across the point/fact as to just who choreographed the dance....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykJC6RUSPSc

...and if there if still some people out there who think this is all a false and totally misleading conspiracy.

Taught this dance over the last two weeks and its going down well with the class. It started to come together this week once everyone cracked the toes, heels and the famous dip section which Mr L is famous for. This is the best dance that Robert has done in over 4yrs and its well worth a mention in the upcoming 2008 Crystal Boot Awards. " Believe It Or Not" Mr Lindsay has written a lot of good dances over the years like " Can't Stop Loving You" and many more. Check them out. Keep them coming like this Robert and who knows where your rising star will go.
Reviewed by Karen Kennedy from DUNDEE, Scotland on Sunday, September 09, 2007

I bet this woman will follow him to the ends of next dance script... and no doubt say all this is a complete fabrication... poor deluded woman. Is she a relation of Flimsey's I wonder ???.

What I cannot understand is this....

Why has there not been a public condemnation of this mans acts from various people or organisations… Choreographers, Magazine publishers, Dancers, Instructors, Event organisers.. so on and so on.

They may have done ...but he might have friends in high places with vested interests who either ignore or stifle any form of truth.

I seem to recall Gary Lafferty screaming from the top of his lungs when I reviewed a few of my (William Sevone) dances – but the worst I come out with was ‘.. the best he has done..’, but then Gary was trying to get me off the message board because he quite possibly thought I may have found out about ‘his’ dance 'Queen Of My Heart’ ..and so by discrediting me people would no longer believe anything I said or wrote – clever plan… and it almost worked. I was/am still treated like dirt but only by those dicipled crones who gathered around his feet… but the World woke up and realised the truth about that dance and duelly gave the credit to Doug & Jackie Miranda. And thats all I wanted - Justice and fair play. The irony was - I thought at that time the dance WAS only written by him.
He has made a lot of money and achieved a high degree of fame and position from that single dance... says a lot for his linedance friends as well doesnt it.
Strange but true.. a few people love to tell others that it was moi that got a message board closed down... and yet, if that was the case.. why was I one of the first able to post on the NEW message board. Surely they would have banned me and not let me post wouldn't they - but they DID ban (for a short period) a male member who continually harrassed me - and got rid of all his postings at the same time.

Another irony is that it was one of Lafferty’s friends who told me where to find the truth about Queen Of My Heart' – the ‘famous’ Hank from Wales - but this has been mentioned previously in this thread…. Ahhhh well…. such is life.

I dislike talking about people like the above, because it is THEY who have created a negative image - I really do prefer to talk about the positive things within our hobby. But at the same time, it would be wrong of me to turn a blind eye to the totally dishonest, deceitful even fraudulent acts that some people will do for their so called 'five minutes of fame'.

Dance Diva Age : 46 Joined : 16 Jan 2007 Posts : 92

Hi all,

Ive got a copy Mike Smile

I dont understand why people are reluctant to discuss the negatives in this buisiness either? Life isnt all flowers and roses around the door so why does something like this cause such a bit kerfuffle on certain message boards?

at the end of the day its only linedancing, not something likely to destroy world peace!!

so some wally thinks its a good idea to stick his name on someone elses dance (or two....etc) why the cover up?

the over reaction to a few little comments from me on other message boards is just ridiculous - im glad Mike reminded me of this message board (sorry folks i completely forgot you were here!) so that adults can discuss whatever the hell they want to.

nice to be back - off to cook tea now!

Julie xxx
www.linedancingevents.com
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Admin Age : 57 Joined : 21 Feb 2007 Posts : 743

Hi Julie,

As you know this board is totally open and members can just either just look or contribute - though we much prefer contibutions from everyone.. makes it more balanced.

Nice to see you back.

Admin Age : 57 Joined : 21 Feb 2007 Posts : 743

I have noticed that Lindsey is now being advertised/promoted as ‘…the famous Scottish Choreographer’… Well… you can’t really say Infamous now can you. Would they still advertise him as such if they were aware of his total disrespect to other Choreographers,Instructors and most of all - the dancers. I would hope not... but then I dont think money matters above integrity. Their choice really.

Considering the number of people who, from the evidence they have seen (see previous posts) and more importantly, seen for themselves leaves me totally bewildered as what make some ‘promoters’ and the such still book this person.

I personally will not attend any venue or social that Lindsay is present at. I have just recently turned down a Choreographer guest spot simply because he will be there – so much for some of the Jackasses out there who say that ‘Im’ desperate to be noticed... if I aint been 'noticed' in 40 years I think its a tad late to be thinking about it now...lol.

I would also find it impossible to support any future venues or ventures made by ‘promoters’ (including club owners/Instructors-etc) who have booked Lindsay whilst having full knowledge of his well known past plagiaristic indiscetions.

Julie (one of the members of this site) stated on another message board “Well now that the results are in from the crystal boot awards, I can finally see that in some cases choreography cheats CAN prosper….” And for this statement she was slated left right and centre simply because people did not read it correctly. She was referring to the Choreographers (Lindsay) previous acts of well documented, undisputable plagiarism and NOT to the dance ‘Firecracker’. Though an antagonist from over the Welsh border probably knew that, but still wanted to stir up trouble as he has done in the past on numerous occasions – and then rapidly backed off… playing the innocent party.
And as everyone now knows, this was the same person who slagged everyone off who dared to state or even dared to think that ‘Queen Of My Heart’ had NOT choreographed (‘soley’?) by Gary Lafferty.

At the end of the day It’s everyones choice… and I know what my choice is.
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