Slide into the "Electric Slide" debate

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Very wicked - very funny. Laughing

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…And heres something…

Hiya Tiggs
Seeing that there is all this controversy over the Electric Slide over here in the good ol’ USA, I decided to come up with my own.
The name of the dance is: “Not Your Slide, But Mine” novel ‘eh.
Attached is the script and music…no.. NOT Electric Slide. Video will be on line (YouTube and my site) by Thursday AM.
Sent it to all the usual dance sites, so hope it might cause a ripple on the dance floor somewhere in the world.
Love your new dance by the way, the team were in hysterics with the arm waves, gotta give em something to do during the waiting bit though – knitting??.lol.

Nancy

Nancy Morgan is a very popular choreographer in America.. many of you will have done her dances over the years (including ‘Kentucky Flatrock Stomp’)

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Hi,
[for those interested]
An update on this 'saga'....

It is now understood that Ric Silver is contemplating taking the American President to court as he has heard the President has been 'caught' on camera doing the WRONG version of the dance... awwww c'mon.. surely this guy - who incidently states that he (single handedly) invented (?) the dances "Locking", "Poppin", "The Weeble", "The Robot"....and "Breakdancing" has got some sort of 'problem'.

And as for those other 'dances' mentioned (quoted from his website by the way)... errrrmmm they aint 'dances' they are movements - and which only when combined with many other movements can be deemed a 'dance'. its like saying a 'grapevine' is a dance.

He has also tried (yesterday) to remove the whole (except his own comments) of the 'wiki' site thread, simply because he does not like people saying...'errr, hang on a mo'..

Subject: Re: Slide into the "Electric Slide" debate Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:06 am

Careful now Mike, we dont wanna see you end up in court too!!

How long til we see the headline

"Lord of The Dance, Ric Silver, sues The Entire World"
(Ooops, hope I dont get sued now aswell?? silenced

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Is anyone keeping a tally of how much legal action this dude is persuing?

I dont mean to make light of a situation that is obviously important to some people, but I still find it hard to understand why someone would waste time & energy persuing something (that is relatively unimportant) to such an extent??????????? But I suppose everybody is entitled to fight for what they believe are their rights. (trying very hard see both sides!! Very Happy

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Dance Diva Age : 46 Joined : 16 Jan 2007 Posts : 92

the bloke is a wally and needs to get a grip - shame someone like that doesnt put his energies into trying to save the rain forest or something important eh?

Rolling Eyes

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Hi,

"...Careful now Mike, we dont wanna see you end up in court too!!.."

Jennie... I would gladly pay my own airfare..

The amount of (factual) info I have at hand - as well as 1st hand knowledge not only from myself but some unquestionable sources - I would relish that day.

This guy is simply trying to tell the World to give him credit for something he has 'invented' (?... a Choreographer does not 'invent'... they create) even though, through his own stumbling’s there is more than enough reason to discredit his actions. ... and this aint a solitary thing either... but thats a totally different ballgame Neutral

The Electric Slide or whatever has a very important place within modern Linedancing 'history'.
The repercussions of his 'actions' could have disastrous effects on the genre.. and not only within Linedancing.

If his actions were to be deemed acceptable then most of the dances that have been performed throughout the years in whatever genre you could think of would be open to claim and counter claim of ownership. For example: 4 Steps forward. 4 Steps backward. 4 steps to the right. 4 Steps to the left.. A very simple 16 Count/Step dance. If it was ‘open season’ I could register that dance and call it ‘The Walk’ and include after those 16 basic steps as many variations as I wanted or could think of. The list would only be as long as ones imagination. I could then be allowed to sue anyone using ANY of those step combinations. Can you now see how ludicrous the whole thing is.

What would there be to stop anyone claiming rights to a dance that no ones knows who choreographed it... and that could include The Electric.. whatever.

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Hi....

Remember this - "....has got some sort of 'problem' " from a previous posting....

Welllllllllllllll... I have just read his 'life story' (so far)... forget the 'problem'... it aint singular...

http://the-electricslide.com/id1.html

... it reminds me of that comic sketch where everyone who reads a particular joke... dies laughing whilst doing so... you have been warned.

Subject: Re: Slide into the "Electric Slide" debate Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:45 am

Oh Please

I've known & loved some much better 'Stars' than that! Very Happy

Jen

Admin Age : 57 Joined : 21 Feb 2007 Posts : 684

Hi Jennie..

Agree there.... errr... mine being female of course Shocked

Glory Seeker Joined : 15 Feb 2007 Posts : 338

Well I feel very sorry for the guy. He obviously aint the ticket. Thanks for the link Mike, lol. study

Admin Age : 57 Joined : 21 Feb 2007 Posts : 684

Hi...

BREAKING NEWS............BREAKING NEWS............BREAKING NEWS.........

in full .. from the Wiki site

Well, it looks like there finally is a lawsuit, but not the one we've heard about here. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (www.eff.org) has filed suit against Ric Silver. This stems from Mr. Silver's complaint to youtube asking for certain videos depicting the 18 count Electric Slide be removed. The EFF, representing the submitter of one of the videos, states that there is a "lack of similarity" between the dance on Mr. Silver's video and the dance on the Electric Slide video. They state that Mr. Silver has violated the law by "knowingly materially misrepresenting" that the youtube video infringed his copyright. The brief is at
http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/electricslide/complaint.pdf. This one will be interesting to follow. (Rusty Stone)

- Rusty is a regular supplier and contributor of factual information to the Wiki site

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…AND THERE’S MORE… AND THERE’S MORE….

It now appears that ALL the evidence held by other parties supporting Ric Silver’s claim - has been lost/misplaced or destroyed. This means the only evidence there is … is the evidence Ric Silver has in his possession. And according to the man himself – that evidence cannot be questioned.

It has been noticed that the impending arrival of the documentation from the Library Of Congress has been delayed – yet again. Its always ‘in 10 days’… it’s the date that keeps changing.

I truly suspect now that this guy is possibly playing out a hoax- a hoax in which he actually believes his own Walter Mitty type life style (his Biop is a tv series in its own right).
In lesser, but just as contemptible degrees we have (in line dancing) cases of Choreographers who put their name to other peoples (older) dances, who do not credit joint Choreographers.... and then put the scripts on their own web-sites. Makes one wonder just who cares really.

Dance Diva Age : 46 Joined : 16 Jan 2007 Posts : 92

Hi Mike,

when i wrote my last dance (only my third lol) (and it was in my sleep!) how did i know whether someone else had ever come up with that simple combo of steps before?

they may well have done for all i know! but - how could you possibly check whether its deen done before? im not saying there arent unscrupulous people out there - but id hate to think anyone thought that i had renamed a dance and put it out as my own, simply because its a simple routine i had accidentally managed to recreate! bug

without checking every single dance script for 32 count dances i would never know if i personally had duplicated someone elses stuff.

and the point is - is it really that important? looking at the worlds problems, um? probably not! enjoy the sunshine today folks ! cheers! beer

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Depends on just how far one wishes to investigate for the sake of honesty and integrity I suppose. I wouldn't have any problem doing just that.

There are some glaring mistakes.. and some rather subtle. You tend to pick up on the rather obvious ones. There are more facets to a dance than just the steps, as any knowledgeable Choreographer will positively endorse.

Your statement is a little confusing. You Julie (or Andy/Easy A), as a contributors to the Linedancer Message board, both in the past and the present would be well aware of a couple such dances at least and therefore needs no more elaboration.